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		<title>By: Iloveriverside</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iloveriverside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, some of my best friends are of the opposite sex.  I&#039;ve been dating my boyfriend for almost two years now, we completely trust eachother so we don&#039;t mind what gender of people they hang out with.  I don&#039;t understand why it&#039;s such a big issue to be alone with someone not of the same sex?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, some of my best friends are of the opposite sex.  I&#8217;ve been dating my boyfriend for almost two years now, we completely trust eachother so we don&#8217;t mind what gender of people they hang out with.  I don&#8217;t understand why it&#8217;s such a big issue to be alone with someone not of the same sex?</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 21:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eww.
If HE cheats, it is HIS fault.  If HE is not holding to the promises he has made, that has nothing to do with what you might be doing wrong.  
&quot;A sympathetic ear&quot; from a married man on the topic of her sex life is an affair... don&#039;t be fooled.
&quot;Men need to feel manly&quot;.  You say this sounds chauvinistic, that&#039;s because it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eww.<br />
If HE cheats, it is HIS fault.  If HE is not holding to the promises he has made, that has nothing to do with what you might be doing wrong.<br />
&#8220;A sympathetic ear&#8221; from a married man on the topic of her sex life is an affair&#8230; don&#8217;t be fooled.<br />
&#8220;Men need to feel manly&#8221;.  You say this sounds chauvinistic, that&#8217;s because it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a great post :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a great post <img src='http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol

Thats one of the most ridiculous/strangest things I have ever read.

Putting yourself in a one to one situation with a member of the opposite sex isn&#039;t setting you up to start an affair there are sooo many other variables involved. &quot;attraction&quot; for a start.

Otherwise you&#039;d have to stop me (female) being alone with my brother because ZOMG he&#039;s a male and I&#039;m going to have sex with him.

/sarcasm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol</p>
<p>Thats one of the most ridiculous/strangest things I have ever read.</p>
<p>Putting yourself in a one to one situation with a member of the opposite sex isn&#8217;t setting you up to start an affair there are sooo many other variables involved. &#8220;attraction&#8221; for a start.</p>
<p>Otherwise you&#8217;d have to stop me (female) being alone with my brother because ZOMG he&#8217;s a male and I&#8217;m going to have sex with him.</p>
<p>/sarcasm</p>
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		<title>By: Yesenia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yesenia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2011 16:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Abstain from the appearance of evil&quot; I Thes 5:22 I believe that if we follow this Scripture it allows for healthy boundaries and appropriate conduct among men and women. Men/women can be friends but we must be deliberate in our interactions and conversations. We must respect the boundaries of marriage but even more the standards set by Scripture. I do not believe &quot;things&quot; just happen without intent. We must be prepared to deal with those whose standards/beliefs/morals differ from ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Abstain from the appearance of evil&#8221; I Thes 5:22 I believe that if we follow this Scripture it allows for healthy boundaries and appropriate conduct among men and women. Men/women can be friends but we must be deliberate in our interactions and conversations. We must respect the boundaries of marriage but even more the standards set by Scripture. I do not believe &#8220;things&#8221; just happen without intent. We must be prepared to deal with those whose standards/beliefs/morals differ from ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has never been a problem for me to be friends with married men, because I am overweight and by worldly standards, unappealing to the majority of men.  I figure, if a single woman is not as attractive as a man&#039;s wife, he&#039;s not likely to have any interest in her beyond friendship!  In addition, I understand that I exude a &quot;I&#039;m not interested&quot; forcefield. ;) I am in my early 40s and have never been hit on by a married man, yet I have frequent lunches with male co-workers, both Christian and non-Christian.  I actually feel SAFER around married men, because I know that they aren&#039;t available, and are less likely to make a pass!

I think the best approach is to think about what Paul said about eating meat sacrificed to idols; avoid those things which tempt you strongly that you know are wrong... but if something is not a temptation for you, then don&#039;t burden yourself with unnecessary legalism.  I occasionally drink, and it doesn&#039;t tempt me; I forget about it for weeks at a time, so it&#039;s not something I need to avoid. Married men don&#039;t tempt me, so I feel no need to put up barriers to friendship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has never been a problem for me to be friends with married men, because I am overweight and by worldly standards, unappealing to the majority of men.  I figure, if a single woman is not as attractive as a man&#8217;s wife, he&#8217;s not likely to have any interest in her beyond friendship!  In addition, I understand that I exude a &#8220;I&#8217;m not interested&#8221; forcefield. <img src='http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I am in my early 40s and have never been hit on by a married man, yet I have frequent lunches with male co-workers, both Christian and non-Christian.  I actually feel SAFER around married men, because I know that they aren&#8217;t available, and are less likely to make a pass!</p>
<p>I think the best approach is to think about what Paul said about eating meat sacrificed to idols; avoid those things which tempt you strongly that you know are wrong&#8230; but if something is not a temptation for you, then don&#8217;t burden yourself with unnecessary legalism.  I occasionally drink, and it doesn&#8217;t tempt me; I forget about it for weeks at a time, so it&#8217;s not something I need to avoid. Married men don&#8217;t tempt me, so I feel no need to put up barriers to friendship.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 16:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, so can you talk to your wife about whether someone is attractive to you and how weak you feel in one-on-one situations? make sure you can. if you can&#039;t, then not only do you not trust yourself, you do not trust your spouse, and you are subtly PLANNING to indulge in further lust [does that make sense?]. secondly, i don&#039;t hear it stated enough that to spend time with anyone [opposite sex or not] should include a healthy relationship with each other&#039;s community. is your relationship with the opposite-sex friend limited to him/her, or do you have the respect of the spouse, the parent, the bff? if you know the clan, then you can respect not only the boundaries and integrity your opposite sex friend but also the boundaries and integrity of the clan/family/body of Christ. romance, even deviant romance, is never about just two people [easily seen in the positive and negative consequences, right?]. it is about the God-given gifts, like real order and peace, filtering through society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, so can you talk to your wife about whether someone is attractive to you and how weak you feel in one-on-one situations? make sure you can. if you can&#8217;t, then not only do you not trust yourself, you do not trust your spouse, and you are subtly PLANNING to indulge in further lust [does that make sense?]. secondly, i don&#8217;t hear it stated enough that to spend time with anyone [opposite sex or not] should include a healthy relationship with each other&#8217;s community. is your relationship with the opposite-sex friend limited to him/her, or do you have the respect of the spouse, the parent, the bff? if you know the clan, then you can respect not only the boundaries and integrity your opposite sex friend but also the boundaries and integrity of the clan/family/body of Christ. romance, even deviant romance, is never about just two people [easily seen in the positive and negative consequences, right?]. it is about the God-given gifts, like real order and peace, filtering through society.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;doing what everyone does&quot; just isn&#039;t that morally attractive to me anymore. Lately, i&#039;ve been thinking just how different I can get and still not be so crazy that people don&#039;t censor my testimony...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;doing what everyone does&#8221; just isn&#8217;t that morally attractive to me anymore. Lately, i&#8217;ve been thinking just how different I can get and still not be so crazy that people don&#8217;t censor my testimony&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My hitched lady friend and I are still cool and talk but we did &#039;drift apart&#039; for a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hitched lady friend and I are still cool and talk but we did &#8216;drift apart&#8217; for a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: MsLynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsLynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 05:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And finally, there are some bigger deeper issues that reading this discussion made me think about all over again.  Recently, I have been in the unfortunate position of dealing with very difficult and hateful &quot;church folk&quot;.  Preachers that think they are God&#039;s gift to life and should never be questioned, music ministers that have such a hateful tongue that people walk away from volunteer service wounded, spiritual abuse in the church that harms people whose love and life are the church,  all have made me really question my desire to be so heavily involved in &quot;church&quot; (the collective group activities that we participate in, not the literal worldwide body of believers in Christ).  And my rationale has been drifting into the mindset of being around these people causes me to sin in my heart because it&#039;s so hard to remain loving, kind and openhearted when I keep drinking in such ugliness and meanness.  I find myself wanting to hate, which of course will send me straight to Hell.  I sometimes think Lord, to keep myself pure and close to you I need to stay away from these people that I&#039;m supposed to call my brothers and sisters.   And when I first started reading this thread that feeling started to surface again and I thought really, people make me so freaking mad I just need to stay away from all of them to avoid sinning against them, lol.  So, I had to have a long conversation with myself.....Is that really the answer?  The temptation to be angry and sin can&#039;t be solved by walling myself away from other Christians.  It would be much easier for sure, but it would do more harm to the body than good to myself....so I have to resist that temptation while not shunning people.  it&#039;s a part of growth.  A can&#039;t avoid growth in real love by avoiding all tough situations.  Some weeks when I am weak, I MUST avoid the temptation.  Other weeks, I have to simply face it and purpose to love through the pain. 
 
And last but not least, back to the actual sex aspect of it.  Most of my life has probably been over-sexualized, so I&#039;m intensely aware of the ease with which a seemingly healthy dynamic can go horribly wrong.  I do see the wisdom in not commuting with someone for an hour a day, everyday when there is even a hint that a strong friendship could develop.  I see the wisdom in not bellyaching about your spouse to another woman/ man.  Because I know how easy it is to start getting needs met by someone who isn&#039;t supposed to be meeting those needs.    
 
I&#039;m divorced because of a cheating spouse, like many others.  But it wasn&#039;t the availability of an attractive woman that did him in, it wasn&#039;t circumstance or poorly made preventive rules that did him in....it was choices. He was very careful and devoted until the day he decided not to be.  All the self imposed rules in the world only work when you choose to enforce them.  The minute a person doesn&#039;t wish to enforce them anymore, they won&#039;t work.  Our problems started way before the first affair, they started when we wanted more from each other than was possible for a person to give.  They escalated when we romanticized OTHER people as probably being better listeners, talkers, etc. than each other.  They spiraled out of control when he decided that he was missing something that he deserved to have. Sadly, that something was beyond my power to give or really even my knowledge that it was missing.  It wasn&#039;t a full frontal hug that pushed him over the edge, lol, it was his decision to satisfy himself despite knowledge of right and wrong. 
 
I could get extreme with it and never allow myself or any future spouse to be around people of the opposite sex, but that wouldn&#039;t fix it either because it&#039;s not proximity of available women to interested men that causes sexual sin. Some father&#039;s misuse their daughter before their daughters are even old enough to know what is going on.  I am painfully aware of that crossed boundary. Should someone have created a rule that disallowed me from being with my parent?  Hundreds (maybe thousands) of priests have misused their position to molest people of the same and opposite sex, age irrelevant.  We Protestants aren&#039;t immune, we are just independent enough that it&#039;s not a worldwide scandal.  Can we make a rule that all people should interact in sets of 3s just to be sure no potentially deviant pair is alone together?  Of course not, and I know that&#039;s not at all what the blogger here is thinking about.  He is just thinking about being careful as he can in his own situation, which is admirable.  But reading about everybody&#039;s situation certainly helped me to reflect deeply into my own. 
 
I don&#039;t think that there is anything that I could have done or can do now to insulate myself from the pain and temptations to sin that are bound to seek me out....but I have went too far into the direction of trying to avoid the temptation and I appreciated this opportunity to look inside and realize that I can&#039;t run from my own temptations to sin.  I am hurting others more than I&#039;m helping myself even while I close them out to avoid sinning against them. 
 
If anybody ever comes back to this thread, thanks for the conversation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And finally, there are some bigger deeper issues that reading this discussion made me think about all over again.  Recently, I have been in the unfortunate position of dealing with very difficult and hateful &quot;church folk&quot;.  Preachers that think they are God&#039;s gift to life and should never be questioned, music ministers that have such a hateful tongue that people walk away from volunteer service wounded, spiritual abuse in the church that harms people whose love and life are the church,  all have made me really question my desire to be so heavily involved in &quot;church&quot; (the collective group activities that we participate in, not the literal worldwide body of believers in Christ).  And my rationale has been drifting into the mindset of being around these people causes me to sin in my heart because it&#039;s so hard to remain loving, kind and openhearted when I keep drinking in such ugliness and meanness.  I find myself wanting to hate, which of course will send me straight to Hell.  I sometimes think Lord, to keep myself pure and close to you I need to stay away from these people that I&#039;m supposed to call my brothers and sisters.   And when I first started reading this thread that feeling started to surface again and I thought really, people make me so freaking mad I just need to stay away from all of them to avoid sinning against them, lol.  So, I had to have a long conversation with myself&#8230;..Is that really the answer?  The temptation to be angry and sin can&#039;t be solved by walling myself away from other Christians.  It would be much easier for sure, but it would do more harm to the body than good to myself&#8230;.so I have to resist that temptation while not shunning people.  it&#039;s a part of growth.  A can&#039;t avoid growth in real love by avoiding all tough situations.  Some weeks when I am weak, I MUST avoid the temptation.  Other weeks, I have to simply face it and purpose to love through the pain. </p>
<p>And last but not least, back to the actual sex aspect of it.  Most of my life has probably been over-sexualized, so I&#039;m intensely aware of the ease with which a seemingly healthy dynamic can go horribly wrong.  I do see the wisdom in not commuting with someone for an hour a day, everyday when there is even a hint that a strong friendship could develop.  I see the wisdom in not bellyaching about your spouse to another woman/ man.  Because I know how easy it is to start getting needs met by someone who isn&#039;t supposed to be meeting those needs.    </p>
<p>I&#039;m divorced because of a cheating spouse, like many others.  But it wasn&#039;t the availability of an attractive woman that did him in, it wasn&#039;t circumstance or poorly made preventive rules that did him in&#8230;.it was choices. He was very careful and devoted until the day he decided not to be.  All the self imposed rules in the world only work when you choose to enforce them.  The minute a person doesn&#039;t wish to enforce them anymore, they won&#039;t work.  Our problems started way before the first affair, they started when we wanted more from each other than was possible for a person to give.  They escalated when we romanticized OTHER people as probably being better listeners, talkers, etc. than each other.  They spiraled out of control when he decided that he was missing something that he deserved to have. Sadly, that something was beyond my power to give or really even my knowledge that it was missing.  It wasn&#039;t a full frontal hug that pushed him over the edge, lol, it was his decision to satisfy himself despite knowledge of right and wrong. </p>
<p>I could get extreme with it and never allow myself or any future spouse to be around people of the opposite sex, but that wouldn&#039;t fix it either because it&#039;s not proximity of available women to interested men that causes sexual sin. Some father&#039;s misuse their daughter before their daughters are even old enough to know what is going on.  I am painfully aware of that crossed boundary. Should someone have created a rule that disallowed me from being with my parent?  Hundreds (maybe thousands) of priests have misused their position to molest people of the same and opposite sex, age irrelevant.  We Protestants aren&#039;t immune, we are just independent enough that it&#039;s not a worldwide scandal.  Can we make a rule that all people should interact in sets of 3s just to be sure no potentially deviant pair is alone together?  Of course not, and I know that&#039;s not at all what the blogger here is thinking about.  He is just thinking about being careful as he can in his own situation, which is admirable.  But reading about everybody&#039;s situation certainly helped me to reflect deeply into my own. </p>
<p>I don&#039;t think that there is anything that I could have done or can do now to insulate myself from the pain and temptations to sin that are bound to seek me out&#8230;.but I have went too far into the direction of trying to avoid the temptation and I appreciated this opportunity to look inside and realize that I can&#039;t run from my own temptations to sin.  I am hurting others more than I&#039;m helping myself even while I close them out to avoid sinning against them. </p>
<p>If anybody ever comes back to this thread, thanks for the conversation.</p>
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