Comments on: Favorite Post #8. Subtly finding out if you drink beer too. http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/ Musings by Jon Acuff Wed, 23 May 2012 16:24:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Faith http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/comment-page-2/#comment-183397 Faith Mon, 18 Apr 2011 00:41:46 +0000 http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/#comment-183397 this is my favorite stuff christians like post! this is my favorite stuff christians like post!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/comment-page-2/#comment-41306 Anonymous Thu, 02 Jul 2009 06:36:10 +0000 http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/#comment-41306 Ever read God's instructions for using the tithe of crops etc to celebrate the various feasts he initiated for the Jews? Deuteronomy 14:22-27<br />It's a BYO party - but someone needs to bring extra beer for the minister, and getting a bit of a buzz on, in celebration of God's goodness actually seems to be the point.<br /><br />I used to get drunk to impress people, and realised I often ended up doing or saying things I regretted. Now I drink because a good beer or wine with the right friends and/or meal can actually enhance the time and be part of celebrating life and God's goodness together.<br /><br />And if I hear one more self righteous temperance snob say; "People who only drink now and then usually drink more now than they did then." I might have to hurt someone.<br />Christians Like trite cliche sayings - a lot; far too much; to a criminal degree. They don't make you sound clever, they make you sound like a self righteous prick. Please stop now. All of you. you know who you are - you aren't perfect, just forgiven; you're on the road to God's place; you know God, so you know Hope....aaaaarggghhh cheesy Bumper sticker theology is enough to drive me to drink! Ever read God's instructions for using the tithe of crops etc to celebrate the various feasts he initiated for the Jews? Deuteronomy 14:22-27
It's a BYO party – but someone needs to bring extra beer for the minister, and getting a bit of a buzz on, in celebration of God's goodness actually seems to be the point.

I used to get drunk to impress people, and realised I often ended up doing or saying things I regretted. Now I drink because a good beer or wine with the right friends and/or meal can actually enhance the time and be part of celebrating life and God's goodness together.

And if I hear one more self righteous temperance snob say; "People who only drink now and then usually drink more now than they did then." I might have to hurt someone.
Christians Like trite cliche sayings – a lot; far too much; to a criminal degree. They don't make you sound clever, they make you sound like a self righteous prick. Please stop now. All of you. you know who you are – you aren't perfect, just forgiven; you're on the road to God's place; you know God, so you know Hope….aaaaarggghhh cheesy Bumper sticker theology is enough to drive me to drink!

]]> By: Philip http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/comment-page-2/#comment-37536 Philip Wed, 20 May 2009 18:24:59 +0000 http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/#comment-37536 It's a bit of an odd issue in Northern Ireland. Mostly, older people object to drinking, which they're entitled to do. There's still quite a taboo over the whole thing. However, here at uni in Scotland I'm comfortable with a couple of beers inside me. I run everything past Paul's comment about 'food sacrificed to idols', i.e. Is this going to tempt (perhaps weaker) Christians here? Is this behaviour still Godly, and am I relying on God to give me the strength to stop after two or so?<br />Never been drunk, never tempted a brother or sister to drink. <br />So it's working so far...<br />And one thing that's worth bearing in mind is that Jesus launched his ministry on earth by turning water into a truly colossal amount of wine. In fact, as a thelogy student, let me quote something I came across today, discussing whether miracles prove God:<br />"the first miracle that he wrought,viz., that of turning water into wine at an extravagant, voluptuous wedding at Cana of Galilee, is enough to turn our stomachs against all the rest." (Thomas Woolston, 1663-1733)<br />I think that's where the condemnation of people who drink a little ultimately leads - condemnation of the God who created the grapes in the first place! It’s a bit of an odd issue in Northern Ireland. Mostly, older people object to drinking, which they’re entitled to do. There’s still quite a taboo over the whole thing. However, here at uni in Scotland I’m comfortable with a couple of beers inside me. I run everything past Paul’s comment about ‘food sacrificed to idols’, i.e. Is this going to tempt (perhaps weaker) Christians here? Is this behaviour still Godly, and am I relying on God to give me the strength to stop after two or so?
Never been drunk, never tempted a brother or sister to drink.
So it’s working so far…
And one thing that’s worth bearing in mind is that Jesus launched his ministry on earth by turning water into a truly colossal amount of wine. In fact, as a thelogy student, let me quote something I came across today, discussing whether miracles prove God:
“the first miracle that he wrought,viz., that of turning water into wine at an extravagant, voluptuous wedding at Cana of Galilee, is enough to turn our stomachs against all the rest.” (Thomas Woolston, 1663-1733)
I think that’s where the condemnation of people who drink a little ultimately leads – condemnation of the God who created the grapes in the first place!

]]> By: Wesley http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/comment-page-2/#comment-37438 Wesley Tue, 19 May 2009 16:36:00 +0000 http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/#comment-37438 Here's my favorite method, make something with cooking wine and then ask if it is ok with them. You can ease around the question from there. Easily backing out with "Oh, all the alcohol gets cooked out." Here’s my favorite method, make something with cooking wine and then ask if it is ok with them. You can ease around the question from there. Easily backing out with “Oh, all the alcohol gets cooked out.”

]]> By: nate http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/comment-page-2/#comment-35938 nate Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:03:00 +0000 http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/#comment-35938 I have a seminary degree (Masters in theology) and still manage to host a beer website without being consumed by the scorching heat of hell. I cast aside subtleties in matters that <b>really</b> aren't open to subjectivity like drinking alcohol. I have a seminary degree (Masters in theology) and still manage to host a beer website without being consumed by the scorching heat of hell. I cast aside subtleties in matters that really aren’t open to subjectivity like drinking alcohol.

]]> By: The Charismnaglican http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/comment-page-2/#comment-35646 The Charismnaglican Fri, 24 Apr 2009 07:22:00 +0000 http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/#comment-35646 jesus' first miracle? bartending.<br /><br />'nuff said. jesus’ first miracle? bartending.

’nuff said.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/comment-page-2/#comment-34401 Jeff Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:58:00 +0000 http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/#comment-34401 To answer you, having a glass of wine is not sinful and should be done to the Glory of God, just like everything else in your life. Since we do so much that isn't to the glory of Jesus, we are sinners. Those who knowingly act fleshly without regard for the Messiah may not actually have honestly received Him as Saviour. When a person is a new creation, they are sinning when they drink to the "buzz in their flesh" instead of to the glory of God. The "buzz in the flesh" doesn't glorify God rather glorifies the flesh and it's fleshy desires. The question a Christian should be most interested in is WHY DON'T YOU HEED GOD'S COMMANDS? 1 Corinthians 10:31 - Whether then you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it ALL for the glory of God. He is worth it, to me anyway, not sure about those who get drunk. To answer you, having a glass of wine is not sinful and should be done to the Glory of God, just like everything else in your life. Since we do so much that isn’t to the glory of Jesus, we are sinners. Those who knowingly act fleshly without regard for the Messiah may not actually have honestly received Him as Saviour. When a person is a new creation, they are sinning when they drink to the “buzz in their flesh” instead of to the glory of God. The “buzz in the flesh” doesn’t glorify God rather glorifies the flesh and it’s fleshy desires. The question a Christian should be most interested in is WHY DON’T YOU HEED GOD’S COMMANDS? 1 Corinthians 10:31 – Whether then you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it ALL for the glory of God. He is worth it, to me anyway, not sure about those who get drunk.

]]> By: Hat http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/comment-page-2/#comment-34128 Hat Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:41:00 +0000 http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/#comment-34128 Note, by saying I don't care if others get upset by my consumption of alcohol, I don't mean to say that I like offending people. I mean more that others' distaste for something won't cause me to change my behavior, perse. <br/><br/>I have met a lot of really uptight Christians, and, while I love them still, I think they really need to "Get over it." But alas, that's me being a fleshly creature. <br/><br/>And someone mentioned cigars? I love cigars over a drink too. Cigars are wonderful. Note, by saying I don’t care if others get upset by my consumption of alcohol, I don’t mean to say that I like offending people. I mean more that others’ distaste for something won’t cause me to change my behavior, perse.

I have met a lot of really uptight Christians, and, while I love them still, I think they really need to “Get over it.” But alas, that’s me being a fleshly creature.

And someone mentioned cigars? I love cigars over a drink too. Cigars are wonderful.

]]> By: Hat http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/comment-page-2/#comment-34127 Hat Sun, 05 Apr 2009 22:28:00 +0000 http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/#comment-34127 As a Christian, I don't think there's anything wrong with drinking alcohol. If there was, why would it have been one of Jesus' miracles? I do think alcohol should be had responsibly, but hey, enjoy it. <br/><br/>And it might just be me, but I'm not about to care if other Christians get upset about my enjoyment of alcohol- that's entirely up to me.<br/><br/>Excellent post. As a Christian, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with drinking alcohol. If there was, why would it have been one of Jesus’ miracles? I do think alcohol should be had responsibly, but hey, enjoy it.

And it might just be me, but I’m not about to care if other Christians get upset about my enjoyment of alcohol- that’s entirely up to me.

Excellent post.

]]> By: James http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/comment-page-2/#comment-33499 James Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:22:00 +0000 http://www.jonacuff.com/stuffchristianslike/2009/03/favorite-post-8-subtly-finding-out-if-you-drink-beer-too/#comment-33499 "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."<br/><br/>~Benjamin Franklin “Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”

~Benjamin Franklin

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