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		<title>By: Luemas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luemas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I enjoy hymnals. Mostly because they haven&#039;t been played to death by contemporary Christian Radio.

I also think the Organ is God&#039;s gift to awesome, but that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I enjoy hymnals. Mostly because they haven&#8217;t been played to death by contemporary Christian Radio.</p>
<p>I also think the Organ is God&#8217;s gift to awesome, but that&#8217;s just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hatton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Hatton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we sing Viva La Vida at GracePointeLifeTruthHouseNorthRiverElevate? Please? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we sing Viva La Vida at GracePointeLifeTruthHouseNorthRiverElevate? Please?</p>
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		<title>By: Campman62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Campman62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...you like chocolate, I like strawberry...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;...Big Mac or Whopper ?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;...Traditional or Contemporary...?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;*Are our church services all about pleasing &quot;us&quot; and catering to &quot;our&quot; desires...???&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;~Just &quot;Shouting Out&quot; today !&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Blog me:&lt;br/&gt;campman62.wordpress.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;inthelight-campman62.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;you like chocolate, I like strawberry&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;Big Mac or Whopper ?</p>
<p>&#8230;Traditional or Contemporary&#8230;?</p>
<p>*Are our church services all about pleasing &#8220;us&#8221; and catering to &#8220;our&#8221; desires&#8230;???</p>
<p>~Just &#8220;Shouting Out&#8221; today !</p>
<p>Blog me:<br />campman62.wordpress.com</p>
<p>inthelight-campman62.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Multiple services divide the congregation&quot;....oh, I SO disagree on this one.  Let me preface my reasoning by saying I am a classical-musician-turned-contemporary-worship-leader.  So, I can appreciate the pipe organ, hymns with the original harmonies, full orchestra, and all.  But just as much, I LOVE rocking out with the 15-year old drummers and electric guitarists in our praise band.  Our church has 2 distinct services, and the argument that it is &quot;divisive&quot; is so well-used it&#039;s got holes in it.  People have their preferences, and nobody can change that.  By providing 2 services, each group can enjoy corporate worship on Sunday mornings in the same church while they enjoy small groups, missions, fellowship events, Sunday school, etc etc etc TOGETHER.  Without the 2 services, there is NO WAY we&#039;d be able to meet everyone&#039;s needs as effectively.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I know that&#039;s not an option for a lot of churches, but it beats some situations in which &quot;blended&quot; worship tries to please everyone and ends up pleasing no one.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;God created all music, didn&#039;t he?  We might not like it all, but as long as one&#039;s heart is directed towards God and the lyrics are in line with Scripture, I believe it is ALL pleasing to Him.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Different worship services are only as divisive as we let them be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Multiple services divide the congregation&#8221;&#8230;.oh, I SO disagree on this one.  Let me preface my reasoning by saying I am a classical-musician-turned-contemporary-worship-leader.  So, I can appreciate the pipe organ, hymns with the original harmonies, full orchestra, and all.  But just as much, I LOVE rocking out with the 15-year old drummers and electric guitarists in our praise band.  Our church has 2 distinct services, and the argument that it is &#8220;divisive&#8221; is so well-used it&#8217;s got holes in it.  People have their preferences, and nobody can change that.  By providing 2 services, each group can enjoy corporate worship on Sunday mornings in the same church while they enjoy small groups, missions, fellowship events, Sunday school, etc etc etc TOGETHER.  Without the 2 services, there is NO WAY we&#8217;d be able to meet everyone&#8217;s needs as effectively.</p>
<p>I know that&#8217;s not an option for a lot of churches, but it beats some situations in which &#8220;blended&#8221; worship tries to please everyone and ends up pleasing no one.  </p>
<p>God created all music, didn&#8217;t he?  We might not like it all, but as long as one&#8217;s heart is directed towards God and the lyrics are in line with Scripture, I believe it is ALL pleasing to Him.</p>
<p>Different worship services are only as divisive as we let them be.</p>
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		<title>By: *Shannon</title>
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		<dc:creator>*Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked this post, because I think it has a lot of relevance. (It was also very funny, they always are!)However, on the other side of things, contemporary is a good thing. My church is very contemporary, and we really reach people that way. We have a &quot;rockin&quot; band and play vidoes and talk about relevant issues. I know you don&#039;t have anything against contemporary church&#039;s, and just making a point about church&#039;s going over the top. I think that in our world today, it is important to be able to connect with people, especially in the younger generation. Keep posting, I love the stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked this post, because I think it has a lot of relevance. (It was also very funny, they always are!)However, on the other side of things, contemporary is a good thing. My church is very contemporary, and we really reach people that way. We have a &#8220;rockin&#8221; band and play vidoes and talk about relevant issues. I know you don&#8217;t have anything against contemporary church&#8217;s, and just making a point about church&#8217;s going over the top. I think that in our world today, it is important to be able to connect with people, especially in the younger generation. Keep posting, I love the stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: cthoward</title>
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		<dc:creator>cthoward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answer for Anonymous...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here&#039;s my point in asking questions that give my opinions:&lt;br/&gt;Adding services and lasers and other elements is always done in the name of &quot;improving worship.&quot;  I know this is usually done in all sincerity...but the question is: is it necessary?  Is it really improving our worship?  And if we answer, &quot;Yes,&quot; then does that mean we have better worship than the first century church?  We may not be trying to one-up our early brethren, but that&#039;s basically what we are saying when we try to &quot;improve&quot; worship with stuff and styles.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We have begun to think that our quality of worship is determined by the feelings we come away with rather than by the sincerity and devotion to God we bring into it.  We can only truly improve worship by improving our relationship with God.  Stronger faith, deeper devotion, and greater knowledge of our Creator and His Will are better improvements than the stuff we dream up.  &quot;Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.&quot; [James 4:8]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answer for Anonymous&#8230;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my point in asking questions that give my opinions:<br />Adding services and lasers and other elements is always done in the name of &#8220;improving worship.&#8221;  I know this is usually done in all sincerity&#8230;but the question is: is it necessary?  Is it really improving our worship?  And if we answer, &#8220;Yes,&#8221; then does that mean we have better worship than the first century church?  We may not be trying to one-up our early brethren, but that&#8217;s basically what we are saying when we try to &#8220;improve&#8221; worship with stuff and styles.</p>
<p>We have begun to think that our quality of worship is determined by the feelings we come away with rather than by the sincerity and devotion to God we bring into it.  We can only truly improve worship by improving our relationship with God.  Stronger faith, deeper devotion, and greater knowledge of our Creator and His Will are better improvements than the stuff we dream up.  &#8220;Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.&#8221; [James 4:8]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude that was greatness! I used to play cowbell at a church (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKMpLoTXfo8)that seems now to be going &quot;retro&quot; in worship.  The Senior &quot;Pastor&quot; was a frustrated worship leader and boy did he sound frustrated when he tried to &quot;lead.&quot; The real worship leader was awesome.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Look, if you ever heard this pastor sing &quot;Glorious&quot; it takes the term &quot;contemporary&quot; back to the dark ages. I ran kicking and screaming like the place wasn&#039;t going up in glorious holy smoke.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Speaking of smoke - do you know where we can get one of those machines? I&#039;d like to start my own church and call it &quot;Holy Smoke!&quot; If we can&#039;t find one of those machines, I know a group of guys that just hangs out and smokes cigars that play in a worship band so I guess we could use them instead.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you love hymns (done right) then let me suggest Matt Boswell&#039;s &quot;Vintage&quot; - a great CD! I still say box up the hard bounds and breathe some new life in them.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Great post Jon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude that was greatness! I used to play cowbell at a church (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKMpLoTXfo8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKMpLoTXfo8</a>)that seems now to be going &#8220;retro&#8221; in worship.  The Senior &#8220;Pastor&#8221; was a frustrated worship leader and boy did he sound frustrated when he tried to &#8220;lead.&#8221; The real worship leader was awesome.</p>
<p>Look, if you ever heard this pastor sing &#8220;Glorious&#8221; it takes the term &#8220;contemporary&#8221; back to the dark ages. I ran kicking and screaming like the place wasn&#8217;t going up in glorious holy smoke.</p>
<p>Speaking of smoke &#8211; do you know where we can get one of those machines? I&#8217;d like to start my own church and call it &#8220;Holy Smoke!&#8221; If we can&#8217;t find one of those machines, I know a group of guys that just hangs out and smokes cigars that play in a worship band so I guess we could use them instead.</p>
<p>If you love hymns (done right) then let me suggest Matt Boswell&#8217;s &#8220;Vintage&#8221; &#8211; a great CD! I still say box up the hard bounds and breathe some new life in them.</p>
<p>Great post Jon.</p>
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		<title>By: John David Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>John David Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christianne,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I understand your thought process here and at first glance it makes sense.  The problem with that is that we live and serve multi-generational communities.  If we focused on a &quot;Traditional&quot; style of service our church would die out within the next 20 or so years because no one is coming to it.  I think the church needs to be on the forefront of recognizing the needs of it&#039;s constituency and responding accordingly.  In that case, I offer a &quot;Traditional&quot; service for my ages(approximately) 50+ and maybe something &quot;contemporary&quot; for my 30+ people.  Then maybe I need to get a &quot;young adult&quot; type servcie for the 18+.  Most churches have childrens and youth ministries that are totally different than &quot;Big Church&quot; and for reason.  The different style services for adults is just an exapnsion of that concept.  I think the LEADER should do what you have suggested and just focus on being what God has called him or her to be.  So for one &quot;style&quot; you may have one leader and another for a different &quot;style&quot; of service.  Am I makin any sense here? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;-John Hall&lt;br/&gt;Fresno, CA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christianne,</p>
<p>I understand your thought process here and at first glance it makes sense.  The problem with that is that we live and serve multi-generational communities.  If we focused on a &#8220;Traditional&#8221; style of service our church would die out within the next 20 or so years because no one is coming to it.  I think the church needs to be on the forefront of recognizing the needs of it&#8217;s constituency and responding accordingly.  In that case, I offer a &#8220;Traditional&#8221; service for my ages(approximately) 50+ and maybe something &#8220;contemporary&#8221; for my 30+ people.  Then maybe I need to get a &#8220;young adult&#8221; type servcie for the 18+.  Most churches have childrens and youth ministries that are totally different than &#8220;Big Church&#8221; and for reason.  The different style services for adults is just an exapnsion of that concept.  I think the LEADER should do what you have suggested and just focus on being what God has called him or her to be.  So for one &#8220;style&#8221; you may have one leader and another for a different &#8220;style&#8221; of service.  Am I makin any sense here? </p>
<p>-John Hall<br />Fresno, CA</p>
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		<title>By: Chandler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Multiple services divide the congregation.  I can relate to much of what you said though, I remember the struggle between &quot;old&quot; hymns and contemporary praise songs.  &quot;old&quot; hymn is a  relative term though, the hymn &quot;O, Gladsome Light&quot; has survived since the late 3rd or early 4th century.  Trying to stay &quot;relevant&quot; is a dangerous game to play.  The more you focus on one group, like the 20s-30s you ignore the other groups.  If you do that then you are only ministering to one small segment of the population.  I have been reading your site for a while, and even though I no longer identify myself as an Evangelical I find it very funny.  It brings back some good memories of growing up down south in the Bible Belt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Multiple services divide the congregation.  I can relate to much of what you said though, I remember the struggle between &#8220;old&#8221; hymns and contemporary praise songs.  &#8220;old&#8221; hymn is a  relative term though, the hymn &#8220;O, Gladsome Light&#8221; has survived since the late 3rd or early 4th century.  Trying to stay &#8220;relevant&#8221; is a dangerous game to play.  The more you focus on one group, like the 20s-30s you ignore the other groups.  If you do that then you are only ministering to one small segment of the population.  I have been reading your site for a while, and even though I no longer identify myself as an Evangelical I find it very funny.  It brings back some good memories of growing up down south in the Bible Belt.</p>
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		<title>By: jm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, &quot;How Grey is Our God&quot;.. Too funny. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Actually really the only reason I decided to comment is the fact that I was listening to Viva la Vida right when i read that line, and it made me laugh.. heh. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Other than that, I have to say, it&#039;s a very &quot;relevant&quot; post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, &#8220;How Grey is Our God&#8221;.. Too funny. </p>
<p>Actually really the only reason I decided to comment is the fact that I was listening to Viva la Vida right when i read that line, and it made me laugh.. heh. </p>
<p>Other than that, I have to say, it&#8217;s a very &#8220;relevant&#8221; post.</p>
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